Morgan Blanchard on August 25, 2000 at 18:50:22:

Ok, after my plea for help I tracked down the number of the Timken western regional service center in Reno. They were very nice folks and were intrigued by the

problem of finding out what went into the Warford. I was amazed to find that they had a a listing of bearings by application which included the Warford. I was

disapointed to fond out that the 10062 C is an obsolete item as is the 10062 T which was listed as the replacement. I don't know how I am going to deal with this as

of yet but I thought that some out there might find the origional list of bearings for the Warford use full, so here goes.

Warford Corp. 1923-24 (Warford Trans. 0700)

Trans, Main Shaft Front 19138 cone 19283 cup

Trans, Main Shaft Front 28138 cone 28315 cup

Trans, Main Shaft Rear 11157 cone 11315 cup

Trans, Pocket Shaft 10062 cone

Trans, Counter Shaft Front and Rear 07098 cone 07204 cup

Warford Corp. 1925-27 (Warford Trans.)

Trans, Main Shaft Front 19138 cone 19283 cup

Trans, Main Shaft Front 2789 cone 2720 cup

Trans, Main Shaft Rear 285 cone 283 cup

Trans. Pocket Shaft R20072 cone

Trans, Countershaft Front and Rear 07098 cone 07204 cup

Note that these are the OEM bearing numbers and the part numbers have undoubtably changed since this list was printed. Just thought this might be usefull.

If anyone can help on finding a 10062 C or T, I would sure appreciate the help.

Morgan

Follow Ups:

A lot of the Timken numbers are also used by other manufacturers, so the Timken numbers are essentially industry standard numbers. My recollection is that there

are two versions of the bearing between the front and rear shafts. One of them uses a cone with a tapered bore. There is no cup, but the rear of the front shaft has

the bearing race machined into it. The other one used a cone with a tapered bore and a cup with a tapered OD. I ran into the same problem about twenty years ago

when I built up my Warford. My bearing house was able to match up to all of the bearings except those tapered ones. They found a trail of replacement numbers,

but it led to a dead end. I ended up having to rework the rear shaft and the pocket in the front shaft to take regular Timken bearings. They can be machined with

carbide tooling.

Posted by bill bamber on August 25, 2000 at 22:34:03:

In Reply to: Warford Bearings Update (List of bearings) posted by Morgan Blanchard on August 25, 2000 at 18:50:22:

I understand your problem. I restored an Indian years ago and ran into this problem. I ended up going to a bearing house and a man behind the counter took all of

the measurments. He thin cross referenced them to other bearings of appropriate size. There was one bearing only made by norma hoffman that was a superceded

bearing. It was a two roller three raced bearing, Very odd. This bearing cost me almost 250.00 dollars. I was a kid in 1972 when I bought that particular bearing. It

was costly, but there was one out there that would work. I also remember needing 4 needle bearings for the rocker arms, they were very small and not too

expensive. They were hard to find, but they were available. I have since become very good friends with them Man that helped me out as a kid. If you are ever in the

Auburn area his name is Tom Wasley and works for Riebies parts house. The same business that helped me out as a kid. We now laugh about that old Indian. I

would go in to the Parts house and Tom was the only man that

would help me.

It so happens, that if you go into a good parts house they usually deal with a bearing house and will or can direct you to the proper help. In my experience I have

always been able to find a bearing replacement for the project. It just happens that if you have a proper measurement the odds are the part is out there. The big

question is how much are you willing to pay for the part.

hoped I helped, or at least gave you and others out there confidence not to give up because somebody says that it is not made any more.